Wed 10 Aug 2011
An Open Letter to Eircom
Posted by Clare under Customer Service Ireland, Expats in Ireland, Healthy Food, Irish food, Moving to Ireland
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I just wanted to write you a note to say “thanks” for the joy that is dealing with your customer service reps – a delight that I had the pleasure of experiencing for a whole two hours this morning. Of course by “delight” I actually mean an excruciating, dying-a-slow-death type pain that’s about as pleasurable as sliding down a razor blade into a pool of salty lemon juice.
I rang because I need phone service and broadband, which I assumed would be a simple enough request considering you are a phone and Internet company. But as they say, assume just makes an ass of u and me and never has this little nugget of wisdom been more true! I first spoke with a woman named Esther, who went over the offers with me. She said I could get broadband and a landline that covered my needs for €41.99 per month for the first six months and then €46.70 per month afterward. She also mentioned there would be a €29.99 connection fee for broadband, which I thought was rather excessive and that it would take at least 10 business days to connect both the phone and broadband lines and that they’d have to send someone out.
I asked her why it would take so long and she said because no one had ever activated a phone line here, which I found odd as we have an Eircom box right here in our hallway that was, in fact, activated before. She insisted it had not and I decided to try my chances at another company to see if they could do better. She gave me her “direct line” and name so I could ring her back if I decided to go with Eircom.
After ringing a few places, it turns out Eircom does offer the best price – fair play to you (I give credit where it’s due!). So I rang back Esther on the number she gave me; after all, she’d already taken all my details. But an automated voice answered, not Esther. I was hold for 10 minutes. The person who answered had no record of my previous call so I had to relay all my information AGAIN. The new guy, Trevor, had some news for me: My phone line was activated previously so it would only take 24 hours and NO visit from a technician to get it live. He also mentioned that if I signed up for broadband using Eircom’s website, I would not have to pay that €29.99 fee. Clearly Esther does not know about this deal, because otherwise she would have been obligated to share it with me, no? Perhaps she’s suffering from short-term memory loss or plain laziness; either way, it’s time to have a little chat with your employee.
Trevor also shared another gem: Though my new plan offered “unlimited” calls to local numbers, I have to hang up after 59 minutes of talking and ring the person back again if I wanted to get the call for free. I asked Trevor why, and he said – and I quote – “Eircom assumes no one would chat more than 59 minutes on a phone call, that’s why.” A phone company assuming their customers won’t talk on the phone that much? That makes about as much sense as a book on how to read! Great way to make a sneaky extra quid, if you ask me. In any case I’m glad ol’ Trev gave me that info; now I know to clock watch whilst talking on the telephone so I won’t get charged those hidden fees.
Well despite all the hassle, I signed up and Trevor gave me my new phone and account numbers and told me to go ahead and log in online to order my broadband. Let me just say I absolutely LOVE how you make your customers jump through multiple hoops to save a few bob – us busy folk really enjoy that sort of run-around! I got online and low and behold, my telephone number was not recognized. I rang Eircom yet AGAIN, waited another 9 minutes for a human being to get on the other end and was told it would be another 24 hours before my account was activated. Apparently Trevor forgot that little piece of info but Sarah, the girl I spoke with this time, assured me it always took a day to activate.
I believe trained monkeys would do a better job than your current staff and would certainly provide more entertainment value during the long minutes of hold time. It’s too bad there are so few choices for phone/broadband here, because I guarantee that is the ONLY reason why you’re still in business. My partner had WiMax/Imagine before but they were about as useful as a screen door on a submarine, so you lucked out. At best, you fall in the middle of a mediocre bunch – what a feat! Perhaps you should aim a bit higher.
Best,
Clare – An American in Ireland
Baked Onion Rings with Spicy Barbeque Sauce
I spent much of the day infuriated over my wasted morning, but calmed myself down by spending the evening in the kitchen (I know, I’m weird like that). It’s amazing how much cooking soothes me; half-way into making this barbeque sauce, I felt the stress leave my body. There’s something about creating something simple and good that just takes away the anxiety of the day. And, unlike everything else, cooking is something I actually have control over! These onion rings are the perfect comfort food, but they’re healthy, and great dipped in this spicy barbeque sauce.
Spicy Barbeque Sauce
1/2 tea cup water
1/2 tea cup of ketchup
6 tablespoons of dark brown sugar
1 tablespoon of maple syrup
5 tablespoons of Worcestershire sauce
3 tablespoons balsamic vinegar
2 tablespoons red wine vinegar
3 tablespoons unsalted butter
2 tablespoon of lemon juice
2 teaspoons of dry mustard
1 1/2 teaspoons of pure chili powder
2 teaspoons of smoked paprika
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/2 teaspoon garlic powder
Pinch of ground cumin
1 tablespoon Dijon mustard
2 tablespoons tomato paste (puree)
Put all the ingredients into a saucepan and bring to a simmer over medium heat. Turn heat to low and let simmer for an additional 10 minutes, stirring occasionally. Let cool at room temp and serve (keeps for 5 days in airtight container in the fridge).
Baked Onion Rings
2 onions, peeled and cut into thick slices (rings!)
4 tablespoons white flour
1 teaspoon paprika
1 teaspoon garlic powder
1 teaspoon sea salt
2 eggs, beaten
A few dashes of Tabasco
1.5 – 2 cups (just use a tea or coffee cup) of Japanese panko* breadcrumbs
Olive oil or plain oil spray
Preheat the oven to 200 C. Put the flour, paprika, garlic powder and sea salt into a large, Ziploc bag. In batches of a half-dozen or so, place the onion rings in the bag, close and shake so that the rings are lightly coated with the flour mixture.
Place the beaten eggs in a large shallow dish and add Tabasco and mix, and then toss the coated onion rings into the egg to give them a light coat. The flour coating has to go on first as otherwise the egg mixture will not stick to the onion.
Put the panko breadcrumbs into another large Ziploc bag. Again in batches, place the onion rings into the bag, close and shake until the rings are coated in the breadcrumb mixture.
Place the rings on a large baking tray and lightly spray with the oil spray. Bake in the oven for 12-15 minutes, or until golden brown on the outside. Serve with barbeque sauce!
*Panko breadcrumbs are available at most Asian food markets and are essential for this recipe as they are super crispy!
I feel your pain! Did you know that Tossco now sell small bags of Panko in their own-brand Ingredients range? Very handy for those not near an Asian store
Not content with re-enacting a live bells-n-whistles’ version of The Trial each day, it’s also heartening to see Eircom attempt to re-define the term ‘unlimited’.
It’s like being trapped in some Orwell-Kafka mash-up netherworld.
..and no matter what ‘package’ you get you still feel like you’re being ‘done’. BBQ sauce recipe looks v.tasty. I like the idea of baking the onion rings rather than deep frying though sourcing panko will be a problem so will have to try with regular breadcrumbs.
Clare,
I closed my Eircom account pretty much because of the godawful Customer Service they (purport to) provide. Like you, I had a number of painful experiences and one in particular, which had me on the phone for 1.5 hours, during which time the “support” staff pinged me from one phone to another. I spoke to 13 different reps. I counted. I wrote a nicely worded letter of complaint to their department manager, after I closed my account, to which I am still awaiting a reply. I closed my account in 2009.
Welcome to Ireland!
Babaduck: Indeed, I saw panko at a Tesco Extra – totally spaced on that, thanks for the tip!
MM: Yes, trapped is exactly how I feel. I hate not having better, affordable options.
Sheila: You can get panko at some Tesco Extras, apparently, in their specialty food section (see Babaduck’s comment!).
Dez: Unfortunately AT&T back in the US isn’t that much better (though they are marginally better at setting up phone service than Eircom). But I guess when you’ve got a monopoly on the phone business, there’s no need to improve service!
Ahhh yes, Eircom. Did you have a better experience in Drogheda? It’s pathetic compared with customer service in the USA (even via outsourcing to foreign workers!). We come with higher expectations!
I hope Eircom reads this and it makes a difference. Sadly, I’ve chalked all these sorts of issues (Eircom is not alone) up to being ‘part and parcel’ of living in Ireland.
What is it with “unlimited” that Service Providers don’t know the meaning of?, My cellphone provided offered “Unlimited” internet service on my phone, then they said it was only 500MB because NO ONE can use more than that a month on a phone… I kind of agreed and then BAM I was being charged twice what I always pay because apparently I have “used” 700MB (Not True),,,4 months later I still have problems with my bills :S
But good luck with Ericom!!, hopefully after everything is installed you won’t need to deal with their Customer Service 😉
Oh Claire .. I feel your pain .. What is wrong with this country??
For research purposes you should try getting NTL to set you up .. its fun with a capital PAIN IN THE ASS we were 3 months without broadband one summer because they never had any record of our MILLION calls. Then 4 years later I am still getting texts from them telling me my bill is overdue for this month. Well it would be as I haven’t paid one in 4 years because I haven’t lived in that house!
Infuriating!
Clare,
To be honest I am surprised that you use the word “sneaky” to describe eircom’s unlimited calls. The rep that you were speaking to explained this to you in full so I do not think that this is fair. I have gone through the vast majority of telephone suppliers in Ireland and I have found eircom to be the most forthcoming with information. Imagine: signed me up to a 12 month contract despite telling me otherwise. Vodafone: charged me for a paper bill(!). Pure: overcharged me for calls….the list goes on and on. Eircom are always above board. Ring any big company and you will have to wait a length of time before someone answers the phone. They can’t employ a customer service person for every one of their customers
VODAFONE cheapest for fone and broadband, no line rental,faster broadband …eircom charges us 140 euro for broadband we weren’t receiving there robbers there’s a reason they went into liquidation !!! On another note mmmmmmmmmm onion rings look gorgeous x x
Awful and infuriating as that story is, it’s mild in comparison to some of the experiences I’ve had with other broadband providers here over the years. BT were particularly abysmal in the customer service department and took 6 weeks to sort out what should have been a ‘seamless’ transfer. I develop grey hairs just thinking about it. So, yes, Eircom are not the worst of them, but the bar is set pretty low.
Imen: I did not, in fact it was down-right awful. I had to have a technician come out and he didn’t even ring the doorbell or call my mobile phone, so I “missed” his first visit; the follow-up took 2 weeks to schedule. Took over a month to get the line.
Gisela: I agree, “unlimited” should mean just that!!
SJ: One of the worst companies I’ve ever dealt with, to be honest!!
Brian: The second rep told me about that fee, not the first person I spoke with. Also I was an Eircom customer for a whole year before moving to this new location and never knew about this 59 minute rule. It’s a sneaky way to make an extra quid no matter how you look at it. I realize they can’t have one rep per customer but give me a break – they are awful and the wait time is way too long. They should hire more reps with all that extra money they’re making on hidden fees.
Makeup: Don’t think Vodafone works here, which is the issue.
DailySpud: The whole system here needs to step up! 🙂
I’ve had some fairly unintentionally hilarious exchanges with Eircom phone staff myself! Hope you got it all sorted in the end. So frustrating!
Glad you made this kick-ass sauce to de-stress. Definitely looks like one I might attempt myself!
It’s terrible that I think that sounds fairly standard. Once spent 47 mins on hold with VHI only to be told they didn’t know the answer to my question and that I’d need to call back again to speak to someone else.
Customer service leaves a lot to be desired alright, esp with the big ex-state companies and civil service ‘help’lines. That said, I’m finding customer service in the UK very frustrating too!
I have to say that I have been quite lucky with Eircom customer service. I do find with most companys though that you get passed from pillar to post and each person that you deal with gives you different information. This infuriates me and shows a lack of training on the companies part. A weekly meeting to update staff on new packages and information would eliminate this problem and cut call times. It’s not rocket science.
The onion rings look yum, must give them a try when I get my hands on some panko.
If it makes you feel better, after 10 days of no internet access b/c Verizon has outsourced tech support to a Mexican firm and their representatives can only tell you what they read on the screen or in a book, I told them to shove it and had to go to Time Warner. Hate them both, but I used to hate Time Warner more. There are no other real alternatives than these two, and it shows. I’m looking for a new landline provider, because I don’t want Verizon to get a cent. Oh, and I live in NYC, yet I could get internet access for over 10 days. Nuts.
i suspect many U.S. companies are careful about their business practices in the U.S. because of legal and regulatory oversight…where are IRELAND’s consumer advocates, utility oversight boards, and regulatory agencies? Do they exist? It appears that the legal profession may be far less profitable in Ireland than it is in the U.S…can anyone spell CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT?
Aoife Mc: Yeah, I was trying to have a sense of humour about it but very difficult!!
Susan: 47 minutes!? I don’t think I’d have had the patience.
likemaused2bake: You’d think it was rocket science, the way they act.
Pissed off NYC: I had a similar experience with Sprint and my mobile phone back in LA. Wonder what company will lead the way in customer service in the telecomm industry? Step up people!
Eileen: It’ll happen eventually (the class-action suit, lol).
To EVERYONE: I should follow up and say that Eircom rang me after reading this blog post and apologised for their mistakes. They also made sure I got my broadband modem right away, though when it arrived the deliver person insisted I give him my “old” modem (We just moved in to the apt and have never had Eircom broadband, hence no modem). While I am happy that they stepped up and apologised this latest mistake makes me wonder what is going on over there – clearly there is a failure to communicate and it affects everything. Hopefully they’ll continue to work on their service.
Jaysus just switch to UPC, everyone knows Eircom are crap.
Don’t hold your breath. I’m also canceling Sprint as soon as I can. After being a customer for 11 years, the one day I needed them they screwed up, failed to port my home number to my cell phone and mistakenly canceled or interupted my service on the day I was moving. Awful.